[AbyssalPlain]

Last Saturday 27th August I was driving the iX M40 approaching the northward right turn at Newent in Gloucestershire but needing to go straight on when approximately 80 metres from the junction, the car overrode my input and pulled hard right towards oncoming traffic. My consequent counter-reaction required the highest level of force I have yet encountered with the car. What I cannot understand is how come the car is doing lane assist all the time even when its NOT ENABLED.

Monday morning the BMW phone app notified me I needed to take the car to a dealer due to a 'Lane Assist' issue. Too right... maybe the AI bot (either in the car or in the backend systems) spotted that the envelope had been exceeded...? So when they hook it up to Canbus do they suck out a detailed account of the event and learn from it using neural networks and then use this to feed the next firmware update?

There's a possibility that the car is able to sense any opposing forces applied to the steering wheel by the driver - anyone know?

 

[ICS_UK]

Lane warning and correction is active by default and will try and stop you crossing lanes unless you indicate. This can be disabled from driving settings tick box but cannot be permanently turned off so will be set again on next start. Someone said some EU directive ! On my 50 this correction is quite weak far weaker than other BMW’s I’ve driven
There was a fatal accident in Germany recently with an iX which appeared to have veared into oncoming traffic, press picked it up as it was a BMW test vehicle despite being driven with 5 onboard including a baby. Daily mail reported it.
Like you I would be really concerned if the steering didn’t release, normally just holding the wheel does it for me

 

[AbyssalPlain]

Yes I can tell that there's something permanently activated in the way of guidance but didn't realise it might be down to an EU directive! And yes iX's need the indicator to prevent lane change steering wheel vibration. But I was going straight on (bearing left) so can only assume that the car got confused by the road markings...? Its truly disconcerting when you have a combined illogical move by the car needing a strong counter-force by the driver.

 

[ICS_UK]

Yes I can tell that there's something permanently activated in the way of guidance but didn't realise it might be down to an EU directive! And yes iX's need the indicator to prevent lane change steering wheel vibration. But I was going straight on (bearing left) so can only assume that the car got confused by the road markings...? Its truly disconcerting when you have a combined illogical move by the car needing a strong counter-force by the driver.

Be thankful then its not like the new Toyota - Steer by Wire Toyota bZ4x

 

[Paladin1]

Lane warning and correction is active by default and will try and stop you crossing lanes unless you indicate. This can be disabled from driving settings tick box but cannot be permanently turned off so will be set again on next start. Someone said some EU directive ! On my 50 this correction is quite weak far weaker than other BMW’s I’ve driven
There was a fatal accident in Germany recently with an iX which appeared to have veared into oncoming traffic, press picked it up as it was a BMW test vehicle despite being driven with 5 onboard including a baby. Daily mail reported it.
Like you I would be really concerned if the steering didn’t release, normally just holding the wheel does it for me

Same for me. My iX is probably the least aggressive of any BMW I've owned, including my last X5. The system is not Level 3 automation, so it requires you to pay attention and intervene if necessary, but far less than iD7. One good example was the distance control and stopping on the X5 (iD7) - it was particularly notorious for not recognizing a stopped car at a light, and would sometimes even accelerate as you approached, depending on the angle (downward or upward incline). It would eventually stop (usually - I didn't test it to destruction) - sometimes with aggressive emergency braking - but it would certainly get your attention if you weren't prepared. The iX seems to be much better at recognizing cars in front and reacting early. The key is understanding how the system works, and knowing how the car will react in a given circumstance (and it's usually consistent). The operant word in all of these systems is driver assistance, not replacement.

 

[Supercharger]

Last Saturday 27th August I was driving the iX M40 approaching the northward right turn at Newent in Gloucestershire but needing to go straight on when approximately 80 metres from the junction, the car overrode my input and pulled hard right towards oncoming traffic.

Hi,

I'm unfamiliar with the road, but is this in town/urban driving as opposed to A road/dual carriageway?
I can't offer any insight into the behaviour of the IX but know from similar experiences in Tesla over the past 8yrs that AP is a thing of brilliance on larger roads and utterly terrifying when travelling at >20mph in urban environments. Despite all of the ota upgrades and cool videos on YouTube I've never trusted AP in those environments (informed by my my first hand experience over many miles). If the event was on a larger stretch of road I'm much more concerned about the gap in BMW ap vs Tesla than I'd assured I should be.

 

[AbyssalPlain]

UPDATE: The MyBMW app notified me to book a check with BMW locally which I did. The car was with Dick Lovett BMW all day. I was told there were numerous warnings logged by the car (no detail) but was told they were going to load new firmware. When I got the car back (under warranty - no charge) the bind to my iPhone was gone and when I redid the pairing I noticed a new pairing identifier. The car is telling me now that 'certain driver assist functions have been disabled'. (does this mean I passed my driving test level 2a? ;-) ). I also noticed that a new icon pops up in the control display when approaching traffic lights (at red?) - a traffic light symbol - haven't seen that one before.

 

[Supercharger]

Wow. Anything fundamental removed from the driver assist functionality?

 

[AbyssalPlain]

Wow. Anything fundamental removed from the driver assist functionality?

Can't locate it yet - am doing a long trip tomorrow so will scrutinise...

 

[AbyssalPlain]

Oh - I got a nice new 'G-Force' indicator option in the content display selector... maybe I need the M50 for that!

 

[IanH]

UPDATE: The MyBMW app notified me to book a check with BMW locally which I did. The car was with Dick Lovett BMW all day. I was told there were numerous warnings logged by the car (no detail) but was told they were going to load new firmware. When I got the car back (under warranty - no charge) the bind to my iPhone was gone and when I redid the pairing I noticed a new pairing identifier. The car is telling me now that 'certain driver assist functions have been disabled'. (does this mean I passed my driving test level 2a? ;-) ). I also noticed that a new icon pops up in the control display when approaching traffic lights (at red?) - a traffic light symbol - haven't seen that one before.

I had mine updated yesterday at the dealer also. I also had to re-pair my iphone. I’ve not noticed any message about functions disabled. I’ve also not noticed the traffic light icon. But I do now have louder ‘iconic sounds’. Previously they were barely audible, now they are quite noticeable. And also the two new modes. In those modes the sounds are quite loud!! Any ideas on how to reduce the iconic sounds volume?

 

[Jonathon]

I got that message certain driver assist functions have been disabled after a dealer update for the airbag recall. Could not activate the assisted cruise function, no auto braking nothing. I called from the car via Zoom to the head mechanic and he talked me through resetting the whole shebang. That was months ago and it has been perfect ever since. Knock on wood!
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[NomoTesla]

I have lane steering assist turned off except for steering vibration.