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Idrive 8.5/9 and the IX
any info on whether the IX will upgrade to idrive 8.5? I’m on the verge of buying a 2nd hand early car and given the debacle with parking assistant pro not working with pre March cars, I’m even more concerned that 8.5 might not be ported to early cars. This would likely mean no meaningful software updates and investment from BMW in the old idrive 8 stack As they will already have to support 8.5 and 9 on cars they are selling new.
I have to say I’m very dismayed to hear I drive 8 is already superseded. I have zero trust in car companies to support sold cars with different tech. Enough to make me just get the substantially cheaper model Y - I don’t to want to drive a new model around with old tech for this money, nor take the residuals hit that would accompany that.
N.b. apparently they have already said not all idrive 8 cars can be upgraded to 8.5 but I’ve only seen the current 3 series mentioned.
I have to say I’m very dismayed to hear I drive 8 is already superseded. I have zero trust in car companies to support sold cars with different tech. Enough to make me just get the substantially cheaper model Y - I don’t to want to drive a new model around with old tech for this money, nor take the residuals hit that would accompany that.
N.b. apparently they have already said not all idrive 8 cars can be upgraded to 8.5 but I’ve only seen the current 3 series mentioned.
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Being discussed here is the hardware for the touchscreen OS, which does not power any driver assistance features. Those are handled by the MobilEye subsystem which has its own computing system that is totally separate from the system that powers the OS. IOW there are likely two different computers in the iX—one for the OS we interact with and another that actually powers the driver assistance features.
When people say "head unit" it sounds like they are talking about the computer that powers the OS, not the computer that powers the driver assist (MobilEye hardware).
When people say "head unit" it sounds like they are talking about the computer that powers the OS, not the computer that powers the driver assist (MobilEye hardware).
thanks for clarifying, do you know if MobileEye can handle ADAS future upgrades/enhancements or is that too is being changed?Being discussed here is the hardware for the touchscreen OS, which does not power any driver assistance features. Those are handled by the MobilEye subsystem which has its own computing system that is totally separate from the system that powers the OS. IOW there are likely two different computers in the iX—one for the OS we interact with and another that actually powers the driver assistance features.
When people say "head unit" it sounds like they are talking about the computer that powers the OS, not the computer that powers the driver assist (MobilEye hardware).
Perhaps somewhat explanatory:
Continental Technology in the BMW iX Electric Vehicle Creates an Innovative User Experience - Continental AG
Continental supplies key tech for BMW flagship EV ... (eenewseurope.com)
Green Hills Software Technologies Used in 2022 BMW iX All-Electric Sports Activity Vehicle (ghs.com)
PowerPoint Presentation (fccid.io)
The iX is powered by multiple control modules and software packages, which likely accounts for the several hiccups from gestation to now that everyone has experienced. BMW has already announced it will be departing from Mobileye's EyeQ5 chip and convert to Qualcomm Snapdragon Ride in the future (likely by 2025), but that's merely chip technology integrated into other hardware. That aside, the complexity of all these integrated systems is obvious. One module upgrade or change won't necessarily upgrade all functions, and the only thing anyone can say with confidence is that both the programming and hardware technology will change, to match both the competition and technical advances, and with the speed of both, annually is not an unreasonable expectation. So your new model iX, of whatever model year, is likely going to be outdated in a year or two at the outside.
Continental Technology in the BMW iX Electric Vehicle Creates an Innovative User Experience - Continental AG
Continental supplies key tech for BMW flagship EV ... (eenewseurope.com)
Green Hills Software Technologies Used in 2022 BMW iX All-Electric Sports Activity Vehicle (ghs.com)
PowerPoint Presentation (fccid.io)
The iX is powered by multiple control modules and software packages, which likely accounts for the several hiccups from gestation to now that everyone has experienced. BMW has already announced it will be departing from Mobileye's EyeQ5 chip and convert to Qualcomm Snapdragon Ride in the future (likely by 2025), but that's merely chip technology integrated into other hardware. That aside, the complexity of all these integrated systems is obvious. One module upgrade or change won't necessarily upgrade all functions, and the only thing anyone can say with confidence is that both the programming and hardware technology will change, to match both the competition and technical advances, and with the speed of both, annually is not an unreasonable expectation. So your new model iX, of whatever model year, is likely going to be outdated in a year or two at the outside.
Thank you, quite informative. I think I'm just going to enjoy the car as it is. After initial 3 monhs of costly problems, I'm getting to appreciate it more. I'm using it's automation features as they contribute to enhanced safety, which they do, as opposed to autonomous driving which they don't. If future software updates fix existing bugs that will be good, if enhanced functionality is included that would be better.Perhaps somewhat explanatory:
Continental Technology in the BMW iX Electric Vehicle Creates an Innovative User Experience - Continental AG
Continental supplies key tech for BMW flagship EV ... (eenewseurope.com)
Green Hills Software Technologies Used in 2022 BMW iX All-Electric Sports Activity Vehicle (ghs.com)
PowerPoint Presentation (fccid.io)
The iX is powered by multiple control modules and software packages, which likely accounts for the several hiccups from gestation to now that everyone has experienced. BMW has already announced it will be departing from Mobileye's EyeQ5 chip and convert to Qualcomm Snapdragon Ride in the future (likely by 2025), but that's merely chip technology integrated into other hardware. That aside, the complexity of all these integrated systems is obvious. One module upgrade or change won't necessarily upgrade all functions, and the only thing anyone can say with confidence is that both the programming and hardware technology will change, to match both the competition and technical advances, and with the speed of both, annually is not an unreasonable expectation. So your new model iX, of whatever model year, is likely going to be outdated in a year or two at the outside.
I'm not too invested in any of the pseudo-self-driving stuff. It's nice that it's there and I use it on occasion when the use case makes sense. Primarily, though, I enjoy driving my iX like a car—myself!Thank you, quite informative. I think I'm just going to enjoy the car as it is. After initial 3 monhs of costly problems, I'm getting to appreciate it more. I'm using it's automation features as they contribute to enhanced safety, which they do, as opposed to autonomous driving which they don't. If future software updates fix existing bugs that will be good, if enhanced functionality is included that would be better.
The most valuable feature (to me) is self-parking. Hallelujah! And the basic safety stuff. Just the other day the driver's side door wouldn't open because of side traffic. I was juggling a million things, wasn't paying attention, and it might have ended badly in any other car without this functionality (I'm looking at you, Tezzla).
Haven't tried self-parking yet, I did use memory parking to backup into my garage for a week after I bought the car. One time it malfunctioned damaging my garage side wall and passange side of rear pumber; trivial but costly damage. Total cost of repairs nearly 8k; had to wait for nearly 10 weeks for parts to get car repaired. BMW NA tested the car but concluded that all sensors/cameras were working fine! I stopped using memory park and I'm very careful now with all iX automations. The car has generated many error messages including ADAS permanently disabled and bunch of others. Dealer blamed it on front license plate interfering with front radar although it's no where near it. Then SOS was lost along all other functions requiring connectivity and the dealer wanted it back. Fortunately, all issues spontaneously self corrected after 7 hours. I think BMW servers were down, had DOS, going thru maintenance or the cell tower had issues. Still waiting for BMW to fix the driver airbag recall and maybe I'll tell the dealer about the driver seat problems. Oh, well. The iX though is gorgeous, it drives very well, and definitely well engineered. BMW is a great auto but lousy software company 😂😂.I'm not too invested in any of the pseudo-self-driving stuff. It's nice that it's there and I use it on occasion when the use case makes sense. Primarily, though, I enjoy driving my iX like a car—myself!
The most valuable feature (to me) is self-parking. Hallelujah! And the basic safety stuff. Just the other day the driver's side door wouldn't open because of side traffic. I was juggling a million things, wasn't paying attention, and it might have ended badly in any other car without this functionality (I'm looking at you, Tezzla).
Today my car went back to the dealership so they could enable the sat nav as the car wouldn't accept the code when I originally picked it up.
They've had to do a full reinstall and it turns out it is because my car has a headunit that is fitted to the i7. Is this the headunit that is coming to the iX and can run 8.5? If so that means a few others on here may have the same headunits. Will be interesting to see what happens when the update is released.
They've had to do a full reinstall and it turns out it is because my car has a headunit that is fitted to the i7. Is this the headunit that is coming to the iX and can run 8.5? If so that means a few others on here may have the same headunits. Will be interesting to see what happens when the update is released.
I believe that's the one! Very cool - what's your production date?Today my car went back to the dealership so they could enable the sat nav as the car wouldn't accept the code when I originally picked it up.
They've had to do a full reinstall and it turns out it is because my car has a headunit that is fitted to the i7. Is this the headunit that is coming to the iX and can run 8.5? If so that means a few others on here may have the same headunits. Will be interesting to see what happens when the update is released.
Ah - then that's expected. New headunits come on models produced after March 1.It was the first week of March
Those should be able to handle 8.5 when it comes out, and also can handle Highway Assist (and reportedly the L3 driving system when it comes out late this year).
I suspected we had the new head units in our cars from 1 March, so the dealer noting the difference when reinstalling your software is a good sign that it is in fact in there. Fingers crossed for an 8.5 upgrade.It was the first week of March
What software version are you on now? I'm on .35
I'm in a Dec 2023 xDrive50 build, software 11/2022.77
No chance for 8.5 for me, nor highway assist! (well, odds are close to zero, but I suppose anything is possible)
No chance for 8.5 for me, nor highway assist! (well, odds are close to zero, but I suppose anything is possible)
Unsure which software version, I'll have a look when I get in the car tomorrow.I suspected we had the new head units in our cars from 1 March, so the dealer noting the difference when reinstalling your software is a good sign that it is in fact in there. Fingers crossed for an 8.5 upgrade.
What software version are you on now? I'm on .35
So with iX from production starting 3/23 it is also possible to watch german bundesliga on the curved display 🎉🎉
BMW bringt Fußball-Bundesliga Pilotanwendung auf den BMW Theatre Screen. (bmwgroup.com)
BMW bringt Fußball-Bundesliga Pilotanwendung auf den BMW Theatre Screen. (bmwgroup.com)
I checked the version it is 03/2023 .45I suspected we had the new head units in our cars from 1 March, so the dealer noting the difference when reinstalling your software is a good sign that it is in fact in there. Fingers crossed for an 8.5 upgrade.
What software version are you on now? I'm on .35
None of these incremental changes to the hardware and software are worth anything IMHO. The technology is still terribly flawed and certainly not worth the price of taking a loss on selling/trading and buying a new one. For goodness sakes, BMW is moving to a Snapdragon processor (what powers your Android phone) while the rest of the industry is moving to NVidia and/or custom SOCs. Hey, BMW, are you paying attention?
When it comes to technology, BMW is an industry follower not a leader. Enjoy your cars and drive the hell out of them until 2027. By then what BMW puts out will make today's BMW look like an antique. Otherwise you'll end up having to repeat the buy/sell/trade route and lose tens of thousands each time. I'm glad if you have that kind of disposable income, but I do not.
None of this tech is jaw-dropping or defining. I don't think any of us bought our iXs for the technology, did we? I certainly didn't because I knew how bad the Germans are at anything software. If I wanted an iPad I would have kept my Tezzzla.
Let's not pretend we all thought BMW would suddenly become Tesla with its constant updates an feature upgrades. I knew that the moment I sat inside an iX and tried to use its Windows 95 operating system
When it comes to technology, BMW is an industry follower not a leader. Enjoy your cars and drive the hell out of them until 2027. By then what BMW puts out will make today's BMW look like an antique. Otherwise you'll end up having to repeat the buy/sell/trade route and lose tens of thousands each time. I'm glad if you have that kind of disposable income, but I do not.
None of this tech is jaw-dropping or defining. I don't think any of us bought our iXs for the technology, did we? I certainly didn't because I knew how bad the Germans are at anything software. If I wanted an iPad I would have kept my Tezzzla.
Let's not pretend we all thought BMW would suddenly become Tesla with its constant updates an feature upgrades. I knew that the moment I sat inside an iX and tried to use its Windows 95 operating system
When I read all this negativity in this forum I really ask myself why did you buy and iX and do really regret it so much? I thought we germans were complaining constantly...
We were spoiled by Tesla for the past 11 years while the rest of the industry was sleeping for tech and interfaces. The head start gap has not been closed, by a long way.
We want the best. European luxury and quality AND the tesla level or equivalent of technology and software. And why shouldn't we? It shouldn't have to be either or.
We were spoiled by Tesla's tech and interfaces for the past 11 years. Europe does not do tech and software engineering to the same level, and still hasn't, 11 years later while everyone was asleep and still only playing catch up.When I read all this negativity in this forum I really ask myself why did you buy and iX and do really regret it so much? I thought we germans were complaining constantly...
We want the best. European luxury and quality AND the tesla level or equivalent of technology and software. And why shouldn't we? It shouldn't have to be either or.
I’ve been hugely impressed by the tech in my iX - however that is coming from a 2015 Octavia VRS.
what is it that Tesla offers in terms of tech that is so far ahead of European manufacturers?
I’d take a well engineered car over the software though - a lot harder to reengineer than to develop software I would think
what is it that Tesla offers in terms of tech that is so far ahead of European manufacturers?
I’d take a well engineered car over the software though - a lot harder to reengineer than to develop software I would think
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