I wonder what @NomoTesla feels about these "promises" when it comes to software on the upcoming iX3? I'm not sure I believe them!

"BMW has pledged that its first software-defined vehicle, the new BMW iX3, won’t suffer from the software issues that have hampered rival firms.

The electric SUV, revealed at the recent Munich motor show, sits on a new EV platform and features a new computing architecture built around four ‘supercomputer’ chips that run all of the vehicle's key functions.

BMW has developed the entire software stack for the system in-house.

While rivals such as Volvo and the Volkswagen Group have struggled with their efforts to develop software-defined vehicles, BMW’s Neue Klasse chief, Mike Reichelt, is confident his firm will avoid bugs and issues.

'For us it was really important [to develop the software stack in-house],' said Reichelt. 'It’s like the transformation from the combustion engine to electric mobility: the biggest step is when you reach this change in the middle of the company."

'Every engineer at BMW is dealing with this new technology. Every function in the car has a hardware part and a software part, so we speak about function and owner and not about the hardware side or software side.

'Every engineer has to go into the digital world; that’s the transformation."

 

I wonder what @NomoTesla feels about these "promises" when it comes to software on the upcoming iX3? I'm not sure I believe them!

"BMW has pledged that its first software-defined vehicle, the new BMW iX3, won’t suffer from the software issues that have hampered rival firms.

The electric SUV, revealed at the recent Munich motor show, sits on a new EV platform and features a new computing architecture built around four ‘supercomputer’ chips that run all of the vehicle's key functions.

BMW has developed the entire software stack for the system in-house.

While rivals such as Volvo and the Volkswagen Group have struggled with their efforts to develop software-defined vehicles, BMW’s Neue Klasse chief, Mike Reichelt, is confident his firm will avoid bugs and issues.

'For us it was really important [to develop the software stack in-house],' said Reichelt. 'It’s like the transformation from the combustion engine to electric mobility: the biggest step is when you reach this change in the middle of the company."

'Every engineer at BMW is dealing with this new technology. Every function in the car has a hardware part and a software part, so we speak about function and owner and not about the hardware side or software side.

'Every engineer has to go into the digital world; that’s the transformation."

I find this highly encouraging, but after my experience being abandoned by BMW w/ software improvements less than 6 months after delivery (a management decision), I've been burned and am adopting a wait-and-see approach. Despite my vocal issues with Tesla, they are the only EV maker that has completed the paradigm shift to a largely software-driven architecture. Everyone else is struggling. Even Rivian and Lucid—who I hold in high esteem—are having trouble.

What BMW also needs to do is give the driver some credit. Stop with these region-specific locks and limitations on features that have no justifiable basis. Like not allowing personalization of the "personal mode", not allowing default startup drive modes (Tesla has no issue making chill/sport mode sticky), not allowing remote close of trunk in the US and Canada, not allowing traffic light recognition in the US, and allowing significant new features to be added only to new model years.

I want the car to set me free, not lock me down. I would respond positively to BMW announcing that it is reducing headcount in its legal department!

I want to see BMW commit to keeping older vehicle software current for as long as possible and make a specific statement that they will continue to evolve existing owners' software by adding features that were not available on the day of purchase. This is one of the aspects of Tesla ownership that is delightful. There was a time when Tesla updates broke things, but most of that is in the rear-view mirror.

I am somewhat concerned with the statement that the car has 4 "supercomputer" chips. Why does it need four? Unless it's for Level 3 driving redundancy, this seems needlessly complex and gives me some pause. I want more transparency wrt what chipset is being used to drive the graphics and infotainment. I'd love to see a name like Nvidia, and not some "custom" SOC that nobody has ever heard of.

The other question I have is whether BMW's ADAS is rolled in-house or if it's based on Mobileye. Rivian and others are moving away from Mobileye and it would be nice for BMW to not be entirely dependent on one company for its driver assistance feature set.

 

"For these software-defined vehicles, four so-called Superbrains will sense their surroundings, monitor drivers, and respond to their commands. These four big brains amass 20 times as much computing power as BMW’s current-generation EVs.

The Heart of Joy combines all powertrain, chassis, and braking functions into a single unit. Predictive algorithms operate on a high-speed bus at 1,000 'beats' per second, 10 times as fast as before.

'This heart beats very fast, so it makes the car feel alive and agile,' Thalmeier says. 'It makes a fairly heavy car handle lightly, something you’ll feel not only under high g-forces, but in normal driving.'

It's this kind of language that gives me tremendous pause. Describing things in this manner is beyond "dumbing down". It's obscuring facts in favor of hyperbole and false analogies. Why can't they just tell us what the processors are, how fast they run (using standard metrics like instructions-per-second), what is the bus data transfer speed, etc. What is this "1,000 beats per second" nonsense? That's just insulting and tells me BMW views its ownership base as technologically illiterate.

Do they even understand their target market?

These new EVs use electric motors themselves to influence the car’s handling, stability, and braking behavior. The iX3 not only regenerates 40 percent more electricity than before; BMW estimates that 98 percent of all stops in real-world driving can be handled by the electric motors, with no need for drivers to squeeze the brake pedal. The automaker says iX3 test passengers, after closing their eyes, often can’t tell that the BMW has come to a full stop, with the system delivering precision and smoothness that human drivers can’t match. Brake wear is reduced as well.

This is already true today. I never touch the brake pedal to come to a complete stop in B mode. This is not news. It already exists.

As to the rest, I can't even. Calling a computing subsystem a "superbrain" is just so insulting to our collective intelligence. It's super concerning to me that BMW's chief of tech (or whatever they call him) is putting out ridiculous fluff.

 

It's this kind of language that gives me tremendous pause. Describing things in this manner is beyond "dumbing down". It's obscuring facts in favor of hyperbole and false analogies. Why can't they just tell us what the processors are, how fast they run (using standard metrics like instructions-per-second), what is the bus data transfer speed, etc. What is this "1,000 beats per second" nonsense? That's just insulting and tells me BMW views its ownership base as technologically illiterate.

Do they even understand their target market?


This is already true today. I never touch the brake pedal to come to a complete stop in B mode. This is not news. It already exists.

As to the rest, I can't even. Calling a computing subsystem a "superbrain" is just so insulting to our collective intelligence. It's super concerning to me that BMW's chief of tech (or whatever they call him) is putting out ridiculous fluff.

It’s funny that just over 2 years on we are all reliving our IX experiences.
I read many times Nomotesla’s comments about BMW abandoning pre MY2023 IX owners by selling dead ended cars fitted with inferior MGU21 hardware which restricted any of that generation vehicle being upgraded to IDrive 8.5. And for sure those owners have missed out on the significant upgrades to IDrive and MyBMW App.

So I fully respect the cautions issued.

However, the IX3 NK is looking very compelling.

I will lose my IX M60 when I retire in 6m and I’m thinking of my next car I will purchase.

24/25 IXs have depreciated so much that they are looking great value but the thought of 350/400 mile range in an IX3 is VERY appealing.

For sure it won’t be as Rolls Royce like as the IX, but to be honest I’ve not read a negative review.

My concerns are cabin space and airiness - I’m a big guy and there’s no denying an IX3 NK will be a smaller vehicle on the inside compared to the classy IX …. So I won’t put my deposit down right now until I’ve sat in this new NK EV.

 

iX3 Neue Klasse launch

iX3 Neue Klasse launch

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"If the 365W HK is the best system they bring to the US market, it would be one of the weakest upgrade audio systems they have put in any car in the last few decades. It would be on par with their typical base systems. It would likely be worst in class in a highly competitive segment."

It's not just me 😄 that kind of audio is a show stopper for me regardless of the rest. I will watch how the Mercedes GLC with Burmeister will perform. Before that we will know what the iX3 really is.

 

iX3 Neue Klasse launch

iX3 Neue Klasse launch

bmwi.bimmerpost.com

"If the 365W HK is the best system they bring to the US market, it would be one of the weakest upgrade audio systems they have put in any car in the last few decades. It would be on par with their typical base systems. It would likely be worst in class in a highly competitive segment."

It's not just me 😄 that kind of audio is a show stopper for me regardless of the rest. I will how the Mercedes GLC with Burmeister will perform. Before that we will know what the iX3 really is.

@micleg It's weak on paper. I will wait until I hear one to see just how "weak" it is in the real world.

 

I have not gone through all the permutations of the IX3 but your setup looks pretty good to me - however the prices as you suggest are far from incentivised! 😞
… and the red hasn’t been released yet?

But thank you for the info.

Maybe it’s time to think with my head rather than my heart and a late low mileage M60 is going to be my best move as it is fully loaded and has already lost a ton value ie 50%!

I’ll need to get a decent warranty as we know the IX is pretty solid, but when things go wrong they can be VERY expensive to repair …. Especially that Heat Pump!😱

Thank you again.

 

I have not gone through all the permutations of the IX3 but your setup looks pretty good to me - however the prices as you suggest are far from incentivised! 😞
… and the red hasn’t been released yet?

But thank you for the info.

Maybe it’s time to think with my head rather than my heart and a late low mileage M60 is going to be my best move as it is fully loaded and has already lost a ton value ie 50%!

I’ll need to get a decent warranty as we know the IX is pretty solid, but when things go wrong they can be VERY expensive to repair …. Especially that Heat Pump!😱

Thank you again.

@Croddlebopper Yeah, Fire Red can be ordered from March. It's weird how they are staggering the release of certain features.

Regarding extending the warranty on the iX, I looked into doing that for my iX, as I'll be keeping it on a daily hire basis once my lease (and factory warranty) expires. I've been quoted £752 a year for the top level of BMW warranty (including roadside assistance) with £0 excess. If I choose £250 excess, that drops down to £447 a year. There is no way I would run an electric BMW like the iX without the extended BMW warranty once the 3 years are up.

Given the NK iX3 (and all future NK updated/new models) are going to revolve so much around software, I don't think BMW are going to leave owners high and dry like they did before, as it would seriously damage their reputation given how the NK iX3 is likely to be a big seller, and how software is going to be the aspect that car companies compete on.

Furthermore, if you are a tech person and find value in always having the latest tech, I reckon BMW will focus a lot of energy on improving and updating NK cars in years to come, and will do little to improve or update older cars with iDrive 8.0 or 8.5. I like the idea of being able to start a Zoom video call from the NK iX3 (using the car's interior camera) when parked but as soon as you put it into D, then it turns off the video and keeps it audio only.

Yeah, it does sound like where you are in life, that picking up a heavily depreciated M60 would be the most "sensible" decision. Were we born to always be "sensible" though?

 

Looking at this video of the coming GLC I realize I will also miss the electric steering wheel adjustment (and automatic movement when exiting the car) if I go from M60 to iX3.

 

Yes the IX3 NK is fading fast.

@electric_journey has opened my eyes on the real price of the IX3 NK but I had forgotten about the new GLC? But I’m not overly convinced by MB products.

I’ve owned a couple of PHEV Benz’s in the past, and they drive in a very relaxed way but are totally unrewarding to push… and the service capabilities of anything other than an oil change is pretty hopeless in my experience.

I’ll take a look - but with caution.