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I took delivery of my iX50 this morning and have completed around 300 miles. Collected it from Buckinghamshire and on to Cornwall, via my home in Dorset.

First impressions…well what can I say, the car is stunning. It’s painted in Sophisto with the Amido black leather interior. Specified with the Crystal interior but not the bronze exterior. Its very monochromatic especially on the cut 22” alloys. Acceleration is epic, almost too much for a car of such a size.

I could have made it without a charge but would have been within 10 miles of indicated range, so wasn’t going to risk it.

I stopped at IONITY Cullimpton and charged from 35-80% is about 20 mins peaking at 190kw. Just a side note, my BMW charging card hasn’t been activated yet (I registered before I left) and I missed that I could have used the app, so copped for the charge of 55kwh at 69p per kWh!!

Averaged 2.5 miles per kWh on this trip which is a little scary (I’ve had a Skoda Enyaq whilst waiting for my iX) and got 3.2-4 miles per kWh. So lower than I was expecting but then my experience with EVs is limited. For reference the drive is mainly motorways and dual carriageway.

I do think that the re-gen in B mode needs some adjustment in software. In the 50 the throttle is very sensitive with small movements delivering massive torque then massive re-gen. On some rural backroads this can make for a slightly sickly drive for passengers.

it needs some getting used to (maybe not using B), but certainly my experience so far. The torque hits like a hammer and Is relentless.

overall I love it, I’ll be pottering around Cornwall for a couple of days. The car is currently “sipping” on an 11.2 kw AC supply at the cottage.

I’ve also noticed the car going “offline” periodically but I’m keeping an eye on that.
 

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Congratulations on picking up your iX @Stevej80! Do you have a photo you can share of it? How cold is it over in your neck of the woods? Maybe that's part of why you're getting the miles per kWh you're getting.

What stands out to you the most about it when you're behind the wheel?
 

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I’ll grab some pics in the morning. It’s been relatively mild about 13 degrees en route. Cabin temp was set at 20 the whole way, so nothing too drastic.

As for “stand outs”, the seats are the most comfortable of any car I have driven, that and the brutal acceleration. It’s a nicely built package and drives beautifully, from the drive today, it’s better suited to motorways than rural back roads but that’s most likely my needing to get used to the driving characteristics.
 

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it needs some getting used to (maybe not using B), but certainly my experience so far. The torque hits like a hammer and Is relentless.

overall I love it, I’ll be pottering around Cornwall for a couple of days. The car is currently “sipping” on an 11.2 kw AC supply at the cottage.
Have you tried adjusting the regen settings I expect Sport mode to have them high by default

11kW rare to get 3 phase at a holiday cottage !!
 

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It definitely needs playing with. In adaptive mode it’s fine but in “one pedal” mode it’s very harsh.

yes very lucky to have 3 phase. It’s a redevelopment of some very old farm buildings (which I had some involvement with), so 3 phase went in, along with PV and a 1Gbps leased fibre.
 

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Averaged 2.5 miles per kWh on this trip which is a little scary (I’ve had a Skoda Enyaq whilst waiting for my iX) and got 3.2-4 miles per kWh. So lower than I was expecting but then my experience with EVs is limited. For reference the drive is mainly motorways and dual carriageway.
Very interesting - YouTuber 'BatteryLife' got even worse than that at at steady 130km/h (~81mph) at around 2-2.1mile/kWh, although his conditions were nearer freezing. It really is a thirsty beast, and to be honest is a little disappointing - Somewhere around 3 would give over 300miles range, but 2.5 is realistically ~250, which isn't great, especially for a "380 mile WLTP"
 

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I’m going to reset the stats, I’ve been pottering around Cornwall and it’s not changed. I’m leaving on Monday so will reset and keep an eye.

I admit it’s a little lower than I’d hoped, considering the Enyaq got 3.5-4 generally
 

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yes very lucky to have 3 phase. It’s a redevelopment of some very old farm buildings (which I had some involvement with), so 3 phase went in, along with PV and a 1Gbps leased fibre.
iX can chage at 22kW on AC, but only 11kW using the supplied universal charger and a suitable connector one of the CEE Red 3phase, option to use a proper plug and cable when using abroad useful but I expect not cheap. Useful for me a few companies I visit have 3 phase sockets I could use and in the 4 or 5 hours I'm thre get a 50% charge at their expense

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Interesting. I have a dual 22kw Rolec at my office which I haven’t tried yet.

the one here are the cottage is a dual port unit, so not sure if it’s 22kw total or 22kw per socket. The screen on the charger certainly shows some headroom on the bar graph when I plugin abd reports 11.2kw as the charging rate.

I’ve not unpacked my flexible charger yet, so don’t know what adapters are in the pack. It would only be useful for me on outdoor events with 3 phase gennies not that I fancy charging 115k of car on a generator!
 

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IX and many other brand EVs has only onboard ac charger of 11 KW doesn’t matter your wall or mobile charger gives more. It will always be max 11 kw
 

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I so wish that was true. Every spec sheet I have read, and even the ones you quoted above show a maximum of 11kW even on a 32A 3-phase supply. It's a little poor IMHO as even the Zoe will take down 22kW on AC, and there are quite a few 22kW/32A public chargers around.
The 11kW refers to this charger you get with the car not sure if any other manufacturer offers a 3 phase charger most are just supplied with a 3 pin plug 2.3kW max
it is not a charger just a switch controlled by the car
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Interestingly the dealer said the type 2 cable is for up to 11kw but I didn’t argue given the higher voltage. I’ll check the rating tomorrow.

given that the charge rate is dictated by the car and the control pilot signal, I can’t see how a straight cable would influence it.
 

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iX both 40 and 50 will charge at 22kW, 51 minutes for 62 miles is over 20kW View attachment 1334
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main reason they use 22 kw is there is almost no 11 kw public charger they are all 22 kw (except few may have 11 kw front of hotels or small shops wants to offer to their customers.
Onboard charger IX has 11 kw for example etron you can upgrade to 22 kw then they upgrade the onboard charger in ix not an option at least yet. You may check specs from internet 3 phase type 2 ac max 11 kw, (onboard charger limitation nothing to do with fast charger they are giving)
 

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Yes but doing the maths on the charge rate suggests 22kw is possible, although I have read the onboard is 11kw
I think they are misleading consumers with this calculation 51 min cannot get more than 9.35 KW total goes to battery not even clear what is the lost caused by heat generated by current on cables / components So is this even full effective rate I am not sure.

There are only few cars in market offer 22 kw onboard charging capability which is generally not seen as adding value vs cost to manufacturing.
 

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I think they are misleading consumers with this calculation 51 min cannot get more than 9.35 KW total goes to battery not even clear what is the lost caused by heat generated by current on cables / components So is this even full effective rate I am not sure.

There are only few cars in market offer 22 kw onboard charging capability which is generally not seen as adding value vs cost to manufacturing.
They have not made it clear that the iX will charge at 22kW plugged into a AC Rapid. In the UK plenty of these though being replaced by CCS in fact these AC rapid charges will charge at upto 43kW 63A/phase for I think Tesla's. All these AC Rapids have built in connectors (tethered) Now if the iX chaging cable (not the universal charger) is a 3 phase 16A (11kW) in the UK we will be reduced to just 3.7kW when going to Tesco for a free top up or at a Pod Point where you need to use your own cable. The cables are clever (the good ones) they tell the car to limit the current draw to match the cable. Most EV's sold in the UK will come with a 32A single phase charging cable you will know if you have a 32A 3 phase cable by the weight and all pins wired.

Now I may be wrong so next week when I get my iX I will go to an AC rapid and eat my words or confirm it charges at 22kW AC

The iX can handle 32A single phase 16A three phase, to make it handle 32A 3 phase is peanuts and why shouldnt they.

What I think is most misleading especially for UK owners is them saying 11kW charging it should say 7-11kW

What really annoys me are the reviews saying if you want to charge your iX at home it will take about 18 hours it will but it is still adding 22 miles per hour charged (at 7kW), my i3S charges really quick but it is still only adding 27 miles per hour and will do about 40% of the miles of the iX before needing an expensive charge on the move

BTW I've been driving BMW EV's for 6 years the first had a 60-75 mile range !
 

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I’ll confirm when I plug-in at work as our chargers are definitely 22kw.

just a quick one re cables, I’m almost 100% sure the cable (if it’s just a straight through type 2) have no way to determine the charging speed.

the car generates a square wave signal of a predetermined frequency to tell the charger what it’s capable of handling. For example the tester we use when we commission new ev charge points has a selector dial to pretend to be a vehicle of a pre determined type. Meaning we can for example select 22kw and when connecting to a 7.2kw charger it won’t accept it (rather than trying to pull 22kw)
 

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the car generates a square wave signal of a predetermined frequency to tell the charger what it’s capable of handling. For example the tester we use when we commission new ev charge points has a selector dial to pretend to be a vehicle of a pre determined type. Meaning we can for example select 22kw and when connecting to a 7.2kw charger it won’t accept it (rather than trying to pull 22kw)
Logical - I await your 22kW test with interest
 
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